Curse

Skawtt · Feb 08, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Well im quite happy with the heal sig buff and the plague touch buff. Both skills are on my bar I would say 90% of the time.

I can take away one point out of tactics and put it into curses and get rid of 2 conditions AND have my heal sig hit for what it did before the update.

Sister Rosette · Feb 08, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

*Reads descriptions*

Dear God. Necros just got upgraded to 'F*cking Bonkers.'

anonymous · Feb 08, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent

Yes, that's what I should do. Delete the first character I created because PVP people pissed and moaned again.

What are you fighting in PvE that takes 4 seconds to attack?

arcanemacabre · Feb 08, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

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Originally Posted by anonymous

What are you fighting in PvE that takes 4 seconds to attack?

Exactly. Ineptitude is fine. It just means you can't 'cast and forget' on the first melee mob your team aggros. Wait till your target gets within range to make an attack and apply. Now Clumsiness (which would probably be on the same bar with Ineptitude) is a little more viable in PvE, so your build should be a little more effective.

Avatar Exico · Feb 08, 2008, 05:48 AM // 05:48

yap see alot of touchers in AB, it wouldn't surpise me to see Toucher Tanks in PvE with Ursan. They will be deadly without it and when they use Ursan with rest group, they will own with that from Soul Reaping.

artay · Feb 08, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08

All the more reason to bring "can't touch this" in PvP ^^

jayce · Feb 08, 2008, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

*Reads descriptions*

Dear God. Necros just got upgraded to 'F*cking Bonkers.'

lol, yea right. those upgrades look good on paper, but when applied, they still sucks. the skills that came out of this balance on top was hexor's vigor and plague touch. you could count chilblains too if you like throwing away energy when you absolutely do not have to.

Jayce Of Underworld

Mickey · Feb 08, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Just happy that Elementalists didn't get a nerf.

Nevin · Feb 08, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

I find it funny people are all freaking out about the 1 energy skills. The reason they're not 5 energy anymore is they're not spammable skills to begin with. So why further punish a caster for having them? No necro on his own (outside of the that Aura of the Lich toucher builder thats only viable in RA) can sustain his health while sac spamming that much... So instead of making them 5 energy its 1 energy. Still won't be spammed either way, but now instead of 2 hurts its only 1 hurt. Although 5 energy wasn't ever all that much to begin with...

Amnel Ithtirsol · Feb 08, 2008, 07:36 AM // 07:36

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

It is still a nerf. Here is why.
In GvG, one person won't result in a kill. The old arvatar of grenth remove those prots you are mentioning, including several you aren't (SoA, etc). That way, your entire team could attack the target. Now, only the dervish can hit the guy. Big deal? If you are wacking away on a preproted target, you are going to lose anyway.
Switching targets > Arvatar of Grenth

You, sir, are one of a select few that actually understand the sadness...
I'd rather use a skill that removes multiple enchantments from multiple foes in a short period of time than hack away at a single "unblockable" target.
But that's me

FoxBat · Feb 08, 2008, 07:55 AM // 07:55

Grenth is junk against Guardian or any other pre-prot. The point is he completely ignores partywide stuff like Aegis, and in many cases Wards/Defensive Anthem etc. Which maybe isn't enough, but counts for something.

ParanoidDenny · Feb 08, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32

Seems to me anet are trying to kill mesmers full stop, makes u wonder, no mesmers in GW2!

Shuuda · Feb 08, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by ParanoidDenny

Seems to me anet are trying to kill mesmers full stop, makes u wonder, no mesmers in GW2!

Or it could just be that Power Leak was overly effective before. Stop with the pathetic, "WAAAA A-net hates us because we get nerfed all the time" Mentality, it's annoying, sad, and shows you don't understand when something is too strong.

Lonesamurai · Feb 08, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent

Yes, that's what I should do. Delete the first character I created because PVP people pissed and moaned again.

Welcome to a PvP balanced game

Numa Pompilius · Feb 08, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Or it could just be that Power Leak was overly effective before.

25 energy drain every 12 seconds, conditional on managing to interrupt the cast, otherwise you've just wasted 10 energy. My ele could weather three consecutive hits from this and still have energy to cast two Searing Flames, but my warrior would be pretty low on energy. OR he would, if he used spells.

I don't know, doesn't seem very overpowered to me. Then, I don't play GvG. You guys who do, did you find that Power Leak was a big problem in GvG prior to this nerf?

Post-nerf it still costs 10 energy, still has a 12 second recharge, but drains the enemy of 4. You're losing six more energy than the enemy now when using this skill. This skill is dead.

Obviously ANet doesn't like energy stealing at all, as they've repeatedly nerfed mesmer energy stealing, so why not simply remove the energy stealing skills from the game and give mesmers some sort of other energy management instead? God knows they need it.

MagmaRed · Feb 08, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

25 energy drain every 12 seconds, conditional on managing to interrupt the cast, otherwise you've just wasted 10 energy. My ele could weather three consecutive hits from this and still have energy to cast two Searing Flames, but my warrior would be pretty low on energy. OR he would, if he used spells.

I don't know, doesn't seem very overpowered to me. Then, I don't play GvG. You guys who do, did you find that Power Leak was a big problem in GvG prior to this nerf?

Post-nerf it still costs 10 energy, still has a 12 second recharge, but drains the enemy of 4. You're losing six more energy than the enemy now when using this skill. This skill is dead.

Obviously ANet doesn't like energy stealing at all, as they've repeatedly nerfed mesmer energy stealing, so why not simply remove the energy stealing skills from the game and give mesmers some sort of other energy management instead? God knows they need it.

Don't think about it in terms of an Elementalist getting hit with Pleak. Think about a Monk. Energy Storage allows an Elementalist to have more energy, so the loss of it isn't as hard to handle. A Monk has a much lower total energy, and losing a large chuck of it when the team needs a heal/prot means people end up dead.

Avarre · Feb 08, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I don't know, doesn't seem very overpowered to me. Then, I don't play GvG. You guys who do, did you find that Power Leak was a big problem in GvG prior to this nerf?

It wasn't so much a big problem as it was a cornerstone of Dom mesmers.

Hitting a monk on their high set could practically disable them, allowing for sudden decisive plays. It was also strong at hammering away at midline defense/offense. I don't think it needed a nerf of this magnitude though.

Sha Noran · Feb 08, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Obviously ANet doesn't like energy stealing at all, as they've repeatedly nerfed mesmer energy stealing, so why not simply remove the energy stealing skills from the game and give mesmers some sort of other energy management instead? God knows they need it.

[skill]Glyph of Energy[/skill]

Lol.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 08, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

It occurs to me that the party-wide heals are pretty slow casts. Maybe the nerf to p-leak is another bump to party-wide healing?

zwei2stein · Feb 08, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

It occurs to me that the party-wide heals are pretty slow casts. Maybe the nerf to p-leak is another bump to party-wide healing?

Add Frustration/Mirgaine to the equation. They might not stay up for long time, but they do require enemy attention.